Amd Phenom X6 ii vs Intel i core gaming pc configuration
By inspirearun
AMD zacate 18W Fusion APU vs Intel Core i5 at IDF
As usual, AMD was camped out in a hotel room not far from the IDF venue today, where it was showing off its own upcoming chip based on a new CPU architecture with integrated graphics. In this case, the chip in question was the "APU" code-named Zacate, based on dual Bobcat CPU cores and Evergreen-class DirectX 11 graphics. With an 18W max power rating, Zacate is the faster of the two Bobcat-based APUs. AMD put its Zacate test platform into a direct-comparison demo against a Core i5-based laptop.
The head-to head comparo was graphics-focused. One part involved a recent City of Heroes expansion, with the game running first on the Core i5's integrated graphics and then on Zacate's. Frame rates were 6-7 FPS on the Core i5 system's HD Graphics integrated graphics processor, while they rose into the high 30s on Zacate-with apparently higher image quality on the Zacate system, too..
AMD always hosts an event in the shadow of Intel's Developer Forum, so it wasn't surprising to hear the company was demoing its upcoming Zacate processor this week. Zacate is the codename associated with AMD's 18W dual-core APU and will target the $500 notebook market. The second chip,Ontario, is a 9W APU that'll chase after Atom's business. According to AMD's Director of Fusion Marketing, John Taylor, Zacate-class APUs are ideal platforms for what he calls "no-compromise cloud computing." Why's that? He's glad you asked.
Taylor isn't just talking about Zecate as a client-side APU; he's coyly hinting that AMD's new low-power wunderkind will perform quite effectively in cloud server clusters. The IDF demo, however, wasn't just about words; AMD had testbeds ready to demo Zecate's performance against Intel's Core i5. Here's where things get...questionable.
First, there's AMD Space Command, an unreleased HTML5-based title written by AMD. According to this gem of a title, the Core i520M maintains 23 fps while the Zacate consistently delivers 38-40 fps. There's every reason to stare dubiously at this benchmark, but the performance gap isn't crazy. Intel's integratedGPUs have long been the ill-fated henchmen to AMD's tank of ill-tempered sea bass, so there's nothing all that strange about Zacate's GPU outperforming Intel's Core i5.
AMD also includes comparisons between Zacate and Core i5 in City of Heroes: Going Rogue and in the psychedelic browser benchmark. According to AMD, Zacate is ~10x faster in Psychedelic and substantially faster in CoH:GR. The problem here is that the Core i5's browser benchmark score is exceedingly low relative to what other individuals have seen using the same test on older Intel hardware. As for Going Rogue, earlier AMD blog posts specifically note that the game has been optimized to run on ATI graphics hardware. That doesn't change the fact that Zecate may genuinely outperform Core i5, but we'd have preferred to see a neutral title as well.
While there's no proof that AMD sabotaged the Intel system (there could be an issue with the IE9 preview platform), the specialized nature and limited scope of the tests the company did show leaves us unable to conclude much of anything about Zacate. One thing we'd love to know is the extent to which the various tests rely on CPU performance. None of the tests AMD demonstrated were overtly CPU-centric. AMD has a history of skirting such tests with its existing products; omitting numbers for Zacate could be an early sign that new chip lags the Core i5 in CPU performance. That said, AMD seems to be driving the graphics point home firmly with respect to Zecate.
Chief executive officer of Intel Corp. said that the company's forthcoming microprocessors are already in sample production. The world's largest maker of chips is on track to start their volume production using 22nm fabrication process in late 2011.
"We are on track to deliver 22nm [process technology]. Last year, at IDF, I showed you the first working wafer with SRAMdevices on it. This year, I'm happy to report that our first first microprocessor designed for 22nm is moving through our fabs as we speak here today. It's on track for delivery in the second half of next year," said Paul Otellini, chief executive of Intel, at the Intel Developer Forum Fall 2010.
Although the high-ranking executive did not reveal actual code-names of the chips, at present we do know that in 2012 the company plans to release code-named Ivy Bridge microprocessors for desktops, notebooks and workstations as well as code-named Knights Corner chip that is designed for highly parallel workloads and which is based on the MIC architecture. Since Ivy Bridge was planned years earlier than Knights Corner, it is most likely that at present Intel is manufacturing samples of the former at its plants.
Not a lot is known about Ivy Bridge at this point. Given the fact that the design of Sandy Bridge - the father of Ivy Bridge set to be made using 32nm node - is oriented on consumers and brings massive improvements in areas such as performance of graphics; it is logical to assume that Ivy Bridge will further improve its predecessor in key aspects, such as memory performance, graphics processing performance and so on.
"Great graphics performance is required, but it is not sufficient anymore. If you look at what users are demanding, they are demanding an increasingly good experience, robust experience, across the spectrum of visual computing. Users care about everything they see on the screen, not just 3D graphics. So, delivering a great visual experience requires media performance of all types: in games, in video playback, in video transcoding, in media editing, in 3D graphics, and in display," stressed Mr. Otellini.
By starting to make microprocessors using 22nm process technology in late 2011 Intel will leave behind its rivals much behind. At present, a little less than a year after Intel started to make chips using 32nm fabrication process no company manufacturers volume chips at that node. In fact, Intel's arch-rival Advanced Micro Devices only intends to initiate mass production of 32nm chips sometimes in the first half of 2011 because of issues with 32nm SOI process technology at Globalfoundries.
While most of the processor focus at this week’s Intel Developer Forum concerned the Q1 2011 release of Sandy Bridge, Intel is already well along in developing its next platform of chips. Dubbed Ivy Bridge, these will be manufactured using a 22nm process compared to Sandy Bridge’s 32nm fabrication process.
Not much is known about Ivy Bridge, though Intel CEO Paul Otellini said it’s “on track for delivery in the second half of next year.” Considering how quickly that comes on the heels of the major Sandy Bridge rollout>, the first Ivy Bridge processors may be released for high-end and enthusiasts markets first, though that’s just a guess at this point. As with previous CPU shrinkings, the move to 22nm will likely mean better performance and greater energy efficiency, though how much of either can’t be guessed at since Sandy Bridge processors haven’t been thoroughly tested yet.
Here’s one thing we do know: If Ivy Bridge does ship in the second half of 2011, it will put Intel way ahead of AMD. AMD will be bringing its first generation of 32nm Fusion chips to market sometime in 2011; in comparison, Intel will not only have flooded the market with its 32nm chips by then, but also be moving onto a 22nm fabrication process that AMD won’t match until 2012 at the earliest. That doesn’t necessarily mean that all of Intel’s new chips will lap AMD’s in terms of the price/performance, but it does mean that all that heat Ivy Bridge should save will be sent across the back of AMD’s neck.
Apple iMac 2010 Pricelist
Entry level iMac 21.5-inch
21.5” inch iMac 3.06 GHz Price: Rs. 64,900/-
Intel Core i3 3.06 GHz Processor
256MB Dedicated ATI Radeon 4670 Graphics
4GB RAM
500 GB Hard Disk
DVD Writer
21.5” inch iMac 3.2 GHz Price: Rs. 79,900/-
Intel Core i3 3.3 GHz Dual Core Processor
512MB ATI Radeon HD 5670 Graphics Card
4GB RAM
1TB Hard Disk
DVD Writer
Top Level iMac 27
iMac 27” inch 3.2GHz Price: Rs. 89,900/-
Intel Core i3 3.2 GHz Processor
Dedicated ATI Radeon HD 5670 Graphics (512 MB)
4GB RAM
1 TB Hard Disk
DVD Writer
Quad Core iMac 27” inch 2.8GHz Price: Rs. 1,06,900/-
Intel Core i5 2.8GHz Quad Core Processor
Dedicated 1GB ATI Radeon HD 5750 Graphics Card
4GB RAM
1TB Hard Disk
DVD Writer
Processor Pricelist August 2010
Intel Processors Pricelist August 2010
i7-980 Extreme 12MB Cache, 3.33GHz PRICE: Rs 49712 (i7 975 also the same price)
i7-960 8MB Cache, 4.8 GT's PRICE: Rs 31000
i7 - 860 2.8 GHz Turbo Boost To 3.2 GHz, 8MB Cache PRICE: Rs 13837
i7 - 870 2.93 GHz Turbo Boost To 3.2 GHz, 8MB Cache PRICE: Rs 14800
i7-920 / 2.66 GHz 8MB Cache, 4.8 GT's PRICE: Rs 12800
i7 i7-930 / 2.8 GHz 8MB Cache, 4.8 GT's PRICE: Rs 14600
i5 - 750 2.66 GHz Turbo Boost To 3.2 GHz, 8MB Cache PRICE: Rs 10100
i5 - 760 2.8 GHz Turbo Boost To 3.2 GHz, 8MB Cache PRICE: Rs 10400
i5 - 661 3.33 GHz, 4MB Cache PRICE: Rs 10400
i5 - 650 3.2 GHz, 4MB CachePRICE: Rs 9100
i3 - 530 2.93 GHz, 4MB Cache PRICE: Rs5350
ATOM D410PT board + ATOM 1.6 GHz PRICE: Rs 3000
ATOM D945GCLF2D ABOVE WITH IDE PRICE: Rs 3450
Dual Core E5400 / 2.7 GHz 800MHz, 2MB,LGA PRICE: Rs 3200
Dual Core E5500 / 2.8 GHz 800MHz, 2MB,LGA PRICE: Rs 3350
Core2Duo E7500 / 2.93 GHz 1066MHz,3MB,LGA PRICE: Rs 5925
Amd Processor Pricelist August 2010
SEMPRON Sempron 140 2.7GHz, 1MB, AM3 PRICE: Rs 1771
SEMPRON Sempron 145 2.8GHz, 1MB, AM3 PRICE: Rs 1850
Athlon II X2 - 245 2.9GHz, 2MB, AM3 PRICE: Rs 2987
Athlon II X2 - 250 3 GHz, 2MB, AM3 PRICE: Rs 3250
Athlon II X2 - 255 3.1 GHz, 2MB, AM3 PRICE: Rs 3428
Athlon II X2 - 260 3.2 GHz, 2MB, AM3 PRICE: Rs 3650
Athlon II X3 - 435 2.9GHz, 1.5MB, AM3 PRICE: Rs 3591
Phenom II II X2 - 550 3.1 GHz, 7MB, AM3 PRICE: Rs 4436
Phenom II II X2 - 555 BE 3.2 GHz, 7MB, AM3PRICE: Rs 5092
Athlon II X4 Quad X4 - 635 2.9GHz, 2M, AM3PRICE: Rs 5040
Phenom II Quad X4 - 925 2.8GHz, 8M, AM3 PRICE: Rs 6625
Phenom II Quad X4 - 945 3.0GHz, 8M, AM3 PRICE: Rs 7113
Phenom II Quad X4 - 955 BE 3.2GHz, 8M, AM3 PRICE: Rs 7943
Phenom II Quad X4 - 965 BE 3.4GHz, 8M, AM3 PRICE: Rs 8917
Phenom II SIX X6 - 1035T 2.6GHz, 9M, AM3 PRICE: Rs expected soon
Phenom II SIX X6 - 1045T 2.7GHz, 9M, AM3 PRICE: Rs expected soon
Phenom II SIX X6 - 1055T 2.8GHz, 9M, AM3 PRICE: Rs 9840
Phenom II SIX X6 - 1075T 3 GHz, 9M, AM3 PRICE: Rs expected soon
Phenom II SIX X6 - 1090T BE 3.2GHz, 9M, AM3 PRICE: Rs 14298
Any IDEA to buy a NEW PC
Don't worry I will give you plenty of ideas to buy, mostly there will be four types of consumers buying PC,
1. Internet PC
2. Multimedia Home PC(Serves as Internet PC also)
3. Digital Commercial PC (For productivity purposes like digital imaging, video editing,serves as multimedia PC)
4. Gamer PC (Serves for all the purpose mentioned above)
Common Listings for all the above Cofigurations:
1. Cabinet:
It is always advisable to buy a cabinet directly from shops around 1500 Rs, as they will come with a inbuilt SMPS and with somewhat good build quality , which is more than enough .
2. DVD writer:
Buy a Sony or Asus DVD writer preferrably with SATA connection which will come around Rs1350/-
3.UPS :
Most important thing many of us doesn't employ our PC with a UPS to reduce it's total cost, it's a very bad idea, it provides a voltage protection to SMPS and Speaker, Monitor adapters, so it's a must to buy.
Buy Numeric UPS it will be better, it comes around Rs 1800/-
4.Keyboard and Mouse :
Buy a logitech or microsoft Keyboard and mouse which will give you a longer life and good build quality.
It starts from Rs 655/- in this link
To see or buy keyboard and mouse online at cheapest price and good quality
5. Monitor :
Always Prefer widescreen monitor that is 16:9 monitor along its length :breadth. Also not only its size in inches like 20" or 22" is important but also its resolution and contrast ratio is more important, in that way, the overall best choice is BENQ G2220 HD at just Rs 7590/- it is a
full HD monitor
contrast ratio 40000:1
21.5" monitor
resolution 1920X1080
TOTAL RS 13000
Now lets move on to the different type of configurations of PC,
Here i'm sticking to AMD processors, because of following reasons
1. Price/Performance ratio
2. Availabilty of plenty of processor in same range
3. Good overclocking but still cool, long life
4. No aging problem like intel, Intel processors are fast when you buy but in course of time when your hard disk gets full the processor lags
5. While upgrading you can use same motherboard and RAM, only processor change is enough
6. Ultimately AMD gives gold for the same amount of Silver(Intel)
1.Internet PC
This is a PC used just to view Internet
Processor: AMD X2 240 (2.80G / 2mb / AM3) Rs 2800
(Dual Core 65% faster than INTEL processor at the same price, also serves equally cool and well optimized for windows 7 and better life and overclocking)
Motherboard: MSI 785GM-E51 Rs 3885
RAM: Corsair CMX 4Gb1600MHz Rs 5460
Hard Disk: Seagate 500 GB SATA Rs 1900
Speakers: Creative SBS A35 Speaker Rs 450
TOTAL RS 14500+ the essential above 13000
2. Multimedia Home PC(Serves as Internet PC also)
This is apt for home usage
Processor: AMD Athlon II X3 435 (2.90G / 1.5mb / AM3) Rs 3700
(TriCore 80% faster than INTEL processor at the same price, also serves equally cool and well optimized for windows 7 and better life and overclocking)
Motherboard: MSI 785GM-E51 Rs 3885
RAM: Corsair CMX 4Gb1600MHz Rs 5460
Hard Disk: Seagate 500 GB SATA Rs 1900
Speakers: Creative Inspire M2600 Speaker (2.1) Rs 1870
TOTAL RS 16800+ the essential above 13000
3. Digital Commercial PC
For productivity purposes like digital imaging, video editing,serves as multimedia PC
Processor: AMD Quad X4 630 (2.80G / 2mb / AM3) Rs 4900
(Quad Core 80% faster than INTEL processor at the same price, also serves equally cool and well optimized for windows 7 and better life and overclocking)
Motherboard: MSI 785GM-E51 Rs 3885
RAM: Corsair CMX 4Gb1600MHz Rs 5460
Hard Disk: Seagate 1000 GB SATA Rs 3225
Speakers: Creative Inspire M2600 Speaker (2.1) Rs 1870
Graphic Card: Asus NVIDIA 220GT 1GB DDR-III Rs 4305
TOTAL RS 23500+ the essential above 13000
4. Gamer PC
Serves for all the purpose mentioned above
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 955BE (3.2G / 8MB / AM3) Rs 7800
(Quad Core 80% faster than INTEL processor at the same price, also serves equally cool and well optimized for windows 7 and better life and overclocking)
You can also try Six core AMD processor posted eariler like Phenom II X6 1075T or 1055T starts from Rs 9500 whereas Six core processor in INTEL starts from Rs 50000
Motherboard: MSI 785GM-E51 Rs 3885
RAM: Corsair CMX 4Gb1600MHz Rs 5460
Hard Disk: Seagate 1000 GB SATA Rs 3225
Speakers: Creative Inspire M2600 Speaker (2.1) Rs 1870
Graphic Card: Asus ATi Radeon HD 5750 DDR5 1 GB Rs 8275
TOTAL RS 30550+ the essential above 13000
So buy accordingly and be futureproof
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Comments
yeah truly amazing configs...thank you for this.very useful..now i am gonna built the best AMD gaming rig for me.
vinay 20 months ago
a good pc buying guide for indians who needs budget pc, nice